How did you link up with KMRU?
I saw him open up for Fennesz at Zebulon here in Los Angeles in 2022. I really resonated with his sound and felt we were speaking the same language. I felt compelled to reach out to him via DM, and that quickly started a back and forth of getting to know each other and sharing music.
This record has been germinating since 2021. What has that process been like?
It was both cathartic and experimental for me. I loved having all of my tour gear and pedals at home since we hadn’t toured between 2020 and 2023, and I just started creating as a release and form of escapism, without the concrete thought of making a record. The process was very meditative for me and everything that made it onto the album was performed live improv and layered in the moment—tracks one after the other—and then I would edit and mix afterwards. It was very much “getting out of my own way” and capturing those moments of inspiration. The times I actively tried to create with something in mind, I could immediately feel that the next day when listening back, and I hated that.
How do you navigate your different creative roles—music director, artist, producer? Do you find that they feed off of each other?
They do feed off each other. I’ve learned so much from Lana [Del Rey] over the years, especially when it comes to upholding artistic integrity above all else … Also learning to appreciate when inspiration strikes and exploring when those moments happen. Her music has always been very cinematic to me, with different textures, moods, and emotions … Which is very much a part of my music as well. I feel fortunate to work with someone in that capacity whose art I truly respect and admire.
What is your history with experimental music?
I love anything pushing the envelope … From the Beatles experimenting with tape loops in the mid-1960s, Jimi Hendrix records, and early Terry Riley, to the approaches of players like Kevin Shields and Glenn Branca. I’ve always been inherently drawn to drone music as well. I find myself resonating with music that makes you feel something and has an emphasis on emotion rather than quintessential structure.