You’re also a producer—what’s the benefit to looping in friends like Nick Velez? What do you love about collaboration?
Nick is a genius. Our friend Daniel Chae, who engineered and mixed the album, completes the jones trifecta. When you can dig in with the same people over an extended period of time, collaborating both raises the ceiling of the work and increases the ground velocity. Nick and Daniel are incredible at their respective crafts and I’m honored to have had them contribute to my world. It’s also just way more fun having people with you—the writing and recording process can get kind of sad and lonely when I go it alone.
You cited some wild sources of inspiration for your debut full-length gelato—The Shaggs, Avril Lavigne, M.I.A., Daniel Johnston, and more. What tracks were on the jones reference playlist?
In contrast to the breadth I strove for on gelato, jones was about narrowing down, honing in. The jones inspo playlist is essentially all reggae, especially lovers rock and rocksteady. While we were making the album, I was frequenting some hifi/audiophile stores in New York that were always spinning reggae. I couldn’t believe what I was hearing—the bass, the texture of the recordings, the melodies. I fell in love. Reggae is largely an engineer-driven genre as opposed to an artist-oriented one; I love everything that came out of Studio One or had Coxsone Dodd on the boards. And of course Lee Perry, Scientist, the usual suspects. Amongst artists, I’m partial to Alton Ellis, Sugar Minott, The Maytones, Marcia Griffiths, Bob Marley, Ken Boothe, Junior Byles, Susan Cadogan, and others. Almost all of the big ideas I absorbed and put into this record, I learned from listening to reggae.
Can you break down the custom guitar you took with you on the keshi tour? Who made it?
It was made by a feller in Washington, just a guy who makes a guitar every one or two years for fun. It’s a riff on an existing guitar by a company called Ronin. It’s got some odd pickups that allow for a wide variety of sounds and also has a contact microphone built into it. It’s responsible for most of the guitar tones and some drum sounds on jones. It’s also got a badge from a Hamilton Beach vibrator from the 1920s on the headstock, it says “New Life Vibrator.” This was how I learned that vibrators have been around that long.