Did your opinions ever differ on setlist order?
Dom: We have recordings of each gig, so we were changing the set quite a lot. We wanted to keep it fresh. Sometimes we have differing opinions on it, but most of the time we came to the same idea.
Kai: They’re pretty minor differences of opinion. The range of music we’ve released over the years means that we've changed the way we play certain songs to fit the band more. We want the sound of the band to be fairly cohesive throughout the set. So some of the older stuff just makes more sense together. And then a lot of the newer stuff makes more sense together. There's just a few minor tweaks. The level of them wouldn't make that much difference to an audience. Obviously, we're super involved in it, so you get obsessed with the fine details.
Do you always agree on arrangements? Did anyone have to fight for a particular choice?
Dom: No, we all get on pretty well, and we have similar taste. So there's not a lot of infighting about stuff like that. There's not many situations where one person is left feeling sad that they didn't get a choice. Most of the time we build up the songs together in rehearsal, and we're not really kind of going off grid ever in a gig. It's always kind of how we've learned to play the songs. There'll be little nuances. We try out stuff, especially recently. We've been building up a new song that we haven't finished yet, and we add in different sounds, and Andrea [Balency-Béarn] might try some different chords, or Marc [Pell] a different fill. But most of the time no one needs to fight to have their idea heard.
Even though the live set is pretty faithful to the album, are you ever forced to improvise?
Dom: Not really. The only time we improvise is when something goes wrong, and we have to talk on the mic. We don't ever improvise.
Kai: This most recent record was such a straight line between the recorded version and how you would play it live. Much more so than the previous work. There's always really detailed stuff that you can't replicate on stage as well as you would in a recording. You try and do it in a different way, which is more about energy of human beings playing together rather than studio trickery, and that's the only difference. Treating the band like a band, and the record like a record, basically.
The vocals on The Sunset Violent are a real highlight for me. They're far less buried than in some of your previous work. Were more people singing the words back?
Dom: Definitely. It's been nice having songs with proper lyrical content, and people have been singing them back. We had it before with “Marilyn,” a song of ours that people really connected with, and it’s nice to have more like that, that get a bit of interaction with the audience.
Kai: I really look forward to the moment in “Fishbrain” in every set.
How has the transition been labeling yourselves as a band?
Kai: It’s not hard in any way. We were playing gigs from the minute that we were putting records out, and so it was always the two things going on at once. Where you know. Certainly at the beginning me and Dom were very studio based when it came to the recordings, but the live side of it was always a different approach, and trying to lean into different ideas and strengths. So over the years, those two have just melded a bit more than they were in the past. It’s been a pretty steady change in that way. It wasn't like a struggle or anything like that.
I'm not a gear nerd, but I'm sure there are quite a few reading this. You’ve leaned heavily into rock. What's your favorite piece of equipment to use on stage?
Tyra: Oh, I don’t have much fancy stuff.
It doesn't need to be fancy. It just needs to be your favorite.
Tyra: I like my bass. It’s a nice bass. I’m good friends with it.
What is it?
Tyra: It’s a Fender Jaguar. I only got a Jaguar because Kurt Cobain had a Jaguar.
My dog is named after Kurt Cobain.
Tyra: That’s nice.
Kai: Is it called Kurt Cobain, or just Kurt?
Well, his name is Cobain. We call him Cobie, typically. We only use his full government name when we’re mad at him.
Dom: I like my in-ear system. Actually, my favorite thing that I've got is a little … I don't actually know what the name of the instrument is. What is that called?
Kai: Potentially a vibraslap?
Dom: Yeah, a vibraslap. I use a vibraslap, and I hit it twice in one of our songs, and that's the only time it gets used. It's a really cool wooden instrument. There's a ball on a metal rod, and you hit it, and it hits this little cowbell thing on the bottom. Makes quite a cool sound. It's meant to be like a rattling fishbone thing. I use it during that song “Fishbrain.”
Kai: I don’t know how nerdy to get. I’ll just say the MS-20, which is a synth that I’ve always used on stage. However we change this up, that thing always stays. It’s just a classic.